The Issue of Quality

Written By Alex Shirley-Smith - May 11 2015

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Jenny Gibbs
October 09 2017

First off, I have to say I love the concept. I’ve had my Stingray for a few years now, and I get so many questions and comments from passers by every time I set it up. I have mostly used it at music festivals with woodsy camping, because let’s be honest, not an ultralight product, and I have a ton of bedding and sundry gear that goes in and around the Stingray when it gets used. It’s basically car camping with a wow factor. So I’m firmly on the side of favoring this tent. Although a little fiddly to set up in terms of finding the right trees, getting it level, and ratcheted to an appropriate height that balances ease of entry against bumping the ground, it’s really comfortable…most of the time.
In dry, somewhat breezy conditions, this thing is a dream. The slackness of the fly and the flexibility of the bungy attachement points means that breezes can kind of billow in and create airflow. This is a MAJOR Achilles heel in wet weather though. Because the fly – material, cut, or bungy anchors combined – can’t really be made super-taut, it leaks like a sieve in windy rain. Water pools in it and leaks through where it sucks against the mesh of the tent body. Additionally, condensation builds up on the underside of the fly, and because it isn’t taut, instead of rolling down the inside of the fly and dripping off the bottom edge, it sticks to the top of the tent mesh and drips through. It seems this issue could be addressed by making the fly attachments less elastic, altering the cut and tautness of the fly itself, and more crucially, altering the way the fly sits on the tent by EXTERNALIZING the pole sleeves that hold up the mesh body of the tent. Having the tent poles on the inside has meant a couple things for me.
One, I have to be SUPER careful pitching the tent poles once the floor is taut, because poles don’t seat themselves readily on the back end, and can poke through the mesh there, as mine did the very first time I used the Stingray.
Second, because poles are inside, there’s no structure that keeps the fly from lying directly on top of the mesh. so the two fabrics can sucker together during wet weather, and cause leaks. If pole sleeves and poles were externalized, the physical space between the fly and the mesh would be increased, due to the mesh being suspended below the poles instead of on top of them. Breathing space between fly and mesh means better condensation flow, and a more waterproof external barrier in case of rain.

I don’t know if you’ve addressed these issues in later models of the Stingray, but meanwhile, I’ve got a houseful of wet tent parts spread over all my furniture from what turned into a very damp camping experience. It would be nice to attend my next festival with the knowledge that weather is a non-issue because the design flaws have been addressed and the Stingray can handle whatever nature throws at it.

J Haley
September 03 2015

Thank you for this page. I get it. I have no trouble purchasing a product that is from a manufacturer that is not considered high end. I think the manufacturer has two options: go cheap or go value. If you guys stand behind your stuff there is incredible value with these tents. They look like they really enhance the camping experience. I would love it if you offered a repair replacement for a truly non-functional item or error. I love that your design is evolving. Keep up the good work.

David Guerin
May 31 2015

Ive just recently discovered your amazing products.and im wondering on the durability of your product.i live in Canada where it can get very wet,cold,windy,etc.im an avid outdoorsman and i need a tent that leaves a very small footprint.but yet something i can rely on when the weather gets really nasty.i just the other day had a tent get destroyed due to the elements.made for a pretty nasty weekend.so heres my question….how many seasons can you use your product for in a year?.how durable is the rainfly?and do you have a warranty?

Beatriz Moreno
May 30 2015

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crork seo
May 29 2015

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